So after this war I have to say Israel did what it had to do. it didn’t succeed since they were not having clear goal how to win the war. But, Hisbollah is pushed away up to the north. Just to hope that Europeans are going to pull their finger out of their asses and sent the troops to IMPLEMENT the peace. I have to say France is a really disgrace. They pushed for the UN-Resolution saying they’ll gonna send troops and now they’re backing off. Americans are just right when they say that french are just talking hot air and doing nothing. Gladly there is Italy and Germany… Hopefully there is going to be eternal peace.

I know darling, you’ll say those assholes had a good reason for it, because there are Israel and USA to blame. Those are people who are living among us and really hate our way of life and democracy. You’re really a joke, darling. So much blindness… It’s almost a crime…

I have to say you’re blind. Keep it to Dalmayr Boxes. That’s something you’re obviously not bad at. For your information; Woodstock, Peace, Sex and Drugs-Times are long time over. Wake up, my dear. BTW, You didn’t answer at all. And Libanon War is over. So chill off, darling.

Verry easy the answer: because the Israel/USA connection says that they defend “our western values - our western freedom”. Thats why so many people look with horrorfied eyes what is happening in Irak and now in Libanon - Massmurder in our name? No - we scream it out from our heart- No. Who`s gonna stop this madness?

Not every critic of Israel is anti-semitic. I do not agree with SoI in every matter at all. I do think SoI and Israeli are at some point arrogant. But hey, every military and economically strong state is (more or less)! SoI is at some point racist even to it’s own arab born citizens or half-Jews. I do not approve that. I do think however that SoI is much more democratic and therefore less racist than all the countries SoI was and is fighting against for its own existance. I wish for the people of Syria, Iran and some other countires more such “racism”. A similar critic agains totalitary regimes such as Syria or Iran wouldn’t even be heard or red by their citizens because of censorship. Also, I do think there has to be an Palestinian State in 1947-borders. I do, however, think that Israel has to separate itself from Palestinians for good of all.

So exactly where do I fit the “zionist fanatic bs”? Stop trying to make your own posts looking more plausible by bashing and categorizing other posters.

I do think that a person is anti-semitic if he/she denies the right of Jews for their existance in Israel. SoI is recognized state and that is the fact. You may like it or not. Thinking about removing it, destroying it or bubbling abot the Israel’ right to exist will not change anything and time for such thoughts is lost. SoI for ist own sake has to make a peace with Arabs and the neighbouring countires.

So, Bernarda, how about this latest war? Who started it? BTW, let’s talk about war in Kongo. Sri Lanka is just starting again. Or Sudan. How about N.Korea or Burma? Somehow I think it doesn’t interest you so much. Am I right? Now, ask yourself why is it! And you can be angry of being called an anti-semite as much as you can. I am re-inventing it just for you and in your case it’s not “so-called”.

About Gaarder risking his own life: Wake up and just turn the TV on! Rabin (Jew) was killed by a Jew. In Israel. Where in Europe is someone assasinated by jewish citizen in last 30 years just for saying his opinion and not physically making the threat to the SoI?

Of course WWII can’t be explanation for everything Israel is doing today. But somehow, every state has its ow history. WWII is not that far in the past and is present in heads of some Israel citizens. I don’t think this is very unusual. Somehow I think Europeans are more obsessed by holocaust than Israelis themselves.

The only anti-semites are the israelis and their supporters. As there is no justification whatsoever for the existence of israel, they have to continually re-invent so-called “anti-semitism”.

Gaarder is right except for one thing, he accepts the existence of racist theocratic israel. But contrary to what dk says, Gaarder is risking his life. What happened to Rabin?

It is impossible to use the WWII and the holocaust as an excuse for the existence of israel. The racist zionist colonialist movement began well before Hitler came to power, or even before he wrote Mein Kampf. Zionists wanted to steal Palestinian land from the end of the 19th century.

Shurely I am not a selfrighteous Moralist. I am giftet with a sense of beauty and an instinct knowing what is true and what is a lie. I am a fan of straigt on honesty and I did not loose it so I went troug hell quite often. Guess like the rest of us. And therefor I apreciate verry much Gaarders essay, he speaks out honestly his thougts, eaven the more dark ones. Its ok. If not so many people try to stop it with insultes and intimidations, with ban and silence - a clear, honest discussion would clear up the skys for everybody. I am convinced of it - but who knows if I am right.

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Yeah, fuck all of Norway and Europe for what one Norwegian guy said. Spoken like a true Israeli. The only people since the Nazis to be that obsessively dedicated to the concept of collective guilt. You monstrous little toad.

1. Why am I uninformed?
2. Being Moslem isn’t the same being an Arab. Anyone should know that. I’ve said what I am and where I am coming from. Where did you get “an Arab”!? Killing my brother? Myself? Are you insane?
3. Are you talking about my other half when you say I am so disliked everywhere?
4. As said before Germany will never be able to pay it enough even Israel doesn’t expect any “payment” for the few milion killed jews. I think in contrary Germany does play very important and great role in this situation and is the great ally of Israel.
5. Kosher killing? I amnot religious and not eating kosher. However, I don’t see how much is better to kill an animal with electric power, nail in the head or else…
6. Edda, this was actually only interesting proposition Achmadinejad made in his recent actions. Since that is not possible to achieve, jews will let Michael to sleep happily without them in Bayern…:)

The End!

Yes, it is about time you said good bye. I skipped over most of your rantings and ravings. You are uninformed and a whining hypocrite, assuming all that matters is your opinion.

Now, why do you think someone would say that? Because it is true. Also: don’t assume that you would be welcome in Bayern or anywhere else in Germany. Don’t appeal to Germany’s Schuld und Suehne as you have done for half a century now. They have paid for it and lived with their guilt. Look at yourself and how you behave: you constantly whine about your religion, anti semitism, etc. (In case you have forgotten: you are an Arab. You are killing your own brother and your brother’s children. Do you ever wonder why you are so disliked everywhere? (In addition: your Kosher killing methods are an indication of your brutality.)

This was an Idea of the iranian Primeminister, and on my point of view, he was right.

” I don’t think you have any morally right to judge Jews at all.”

You are as free as bird to think what you want. As you seam to be a Moralist - the best say I ever heard about morale is from belgian Poet Henry Beque:
“La morale n`est peut-etre que la forme la plus cruelle de la mechancete.”

It’s not Israels job to look for lebanese government and society. They were sitting and not doing anything against Hesbollah. After they attacked Siniora wasn’t very busy urging them to return the soldiers. The fact they’re sitting in the government makes the State of Lebanon responsible. I don’t think Lebanese were very friendly toward Israel before war started. for sure they will not be more friendly now, but I think this matter isn’t most important now.

Edda, I think Israel as a state would be much better placed in Bayern and Baden-Würtenberg than where it is now. Don’t you think? Just thinking in proportion of guilt and how to do some good afterwards (Schuld und Sühne). Again, I don’t think you have any morally right to judge Jews at all. You simply historically don’t.

So, my friends, that was my closure. I don’t think we’re getting anywhere then saying what our opinions are. Since I don’t anything new to say, and for sure you didn’t come up with somethin new, it’s best to say goodbye. So be it.

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