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	<title>Comments on: Whale and circus</title>
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		<title>by: david@tokyo</title>
		<link>http://sirocco.blogsome.com/2006/06/16/whale-and-circus/#comment-216</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:21:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Fabulous article. I also cover whaling heavily at my blog. Feel free to drop by :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Fabulous article. I also cover whaling heavily at my blog. Feel free to drop by <img src='http://sirocco.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Sirocco</title>
		<link>http://sirocco.blogsome.com/2006/06/16/whale-and-circus/#comment-212</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:57:43 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey xanthe. I've been forced to have moderation for comments, which is why your first comment didn't appear right away.

Not sure if this has something directly to do with US foreign policy insofar as the US keeps a fairly low profile. That said, I think you can imagine how Norwegians, Icelanders and Japanese would react to the idea of being subject to trade sanctions by the Bush administration over &quot;environmental offenses&quot; and &quot;defiance of international opinion&quot;! ;-)

The North Atlantic minke whale does have codfish on the menu, but it's not its primary food, nor is a cull of 1 percent minke enough to affect the stocks -- I would guess, but I'm no expert. The main positive effect of the whaling is that it allows tiny fishing communities in the far north to survive the summer months by providing subsidiary income for the fishermen in the off-season. So while it's totally unnecessary for the nation, locally it's very different.

But I know the Japanese are arguing that whales in their waters compete with their fishermen for fish. Also, I do believe Greenpeace and various governments should focus  on the global collapse of fish stocks due to overfishing a little more, even though codfish are less charismatic than cetaceans and not protagonists in a Melville novel.

I think I saw your picture at dKos once -- no, I'm sure you don't eat too much! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey xanthe. I&#8217;ve been forced to have moderation for comments, which is why your first comment didn&#8217;t appear right away.</p>
	<p>Not sure if this has something directly to do with US foreign policy insofar as the US keeps a fairly low profile. That said, I think you can imagine how Norwegians, Icelanders and Japanese would react to the idea of being subject to trade sanctions by the Bush administration over &#8220;environmental offenses&#8221; and &#8220;defiance of international opinion&#8221;! <img src='http://sirocco.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>The North Atlantic minke whale does have codfish on the menu, but it&#8217;s not its primary food, nor is a cull of 1 percent minke enough to affect the stocks &#8212; I would guess, but I&#8217;m no expert. The main positive effect of the whaling is that it allows tiny fishing communities in the far north to survive the summer months by providing subsidiary income for the fishermen in the off-season. So while it&#8217;s totally unnecessary for the nation, locally it&#8217;s very different.</p>
	<p>But I know the Japanese are arguing that whales in their waters compete with their fishermen for fish. Also, I do believe Greenpeace and various governments should focus  on the global collapse of fish stocks due to overfishing a little more, even though codfish are less charismatic than cetaceans and not protagonists in a Melville novel.</p>
	<p>I think I saw your picture at dKos once &#8212; no, I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t eat too much! <img src='http://sirocco.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: xanthe</title>
		<link>http://sirocco.blogsome.com/2006/06/16/whale-and-circus/#comment-211</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:19:01 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I can only speak for myself, but the cruel slaughter of animals will affect our own human spirituality.  I am a member of Greenpeace, PETA and a vegetarian -- but that is me.  Still individuals need to stop and think about slaughtering species unnecessarily.  Now that Norway is prosperous, does this change the playing field?  It is good to read and think about the other side -- nay, let me say necessary.  Yet another fallout of our aggressive foreign policy (I'm American) -- more ostensible than before -- any influence we may have in matters like this. The question:  Are we competing with whales for food?  I am philosophically thinking lately that I eat too much -- might that be the next &quot;do-gooder&quot; path?    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can only speak for myself, but the cruel slaughter of animals will affect our own human spirituality.  I am a member of Greenpeace, PETA and a vegetarian &#8212; but that is me.  Still individuals need to stop and think about slaughtering species unnecessarily.  Now that Norway is prosperous, does this change the playing field?  It is good to read and think about the other side &#8212; nay, let me say necessary.  Yet another fallout of our aggressive foreign policy (I&#8217;m American) &#8212; more ostensible than before &#8212; any influence we may have in matters like this. The question:  Are we competing with whales for food?  I am philosophically thinking lately that I eat too much &#8212; might that be the next &#8220;do-gooder&#8221; path?
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		<title>by: xanthe</title>
		<link>http://sirocco.blogsome.com/2006/06/16/whale-and-circus/#comment-210</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:11:14 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>It's good to look at another point of view once in awhile.  I'm a vegetarian, PETA member and seriously believe that  our whole slaughter of animals in cruel ways destroys our own spiritually.  But I understand I'm in minority.  I can only live my own way.  Whales have other uses than meat, I believe.  Also, if they consume huge amounts of fish, they compete for our food, do they not?  I do not eat fish but understand.  Frankly, Americans eat too much period. Also, this is another fallout of our standing in the world.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s good to look at another point of view once in awhile.  I&#8217;m a vegetarian, PETA member and seriously believe that  our whole slaughter of animals in cruel ways destroys our own spiritually.  But I understand I&#8217;m in minority.  I can only live my own way.  Whales have other uses than meat, I believe.  Also, if they consume huge amounts of fish, they compete for our food, do they not?  I do not eat fish but understand.  Frankly, Americans eat too much period. Also, this is another fallout of our standing in the world.
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