August 16, 2005

Shooting whale in a barrel

Filed under: Ethics

My defense of dining on whale, also posted elsewhere, gave rise to this e-mail from an American save-the-whales’er:

You’re bragging of eating the whale stake, I’m assuming you’re looking for feedback, and then all of the wannabe vultures that descended on your diary, positively sucked. I mean, really, do you have to eat whale? I suppose the consciousness of the animal never occurred to you? Is this what passes for European detachment these days?

elizabeth

Now, I did find this is a little rude, so I fired back (quote in bold):

Who are you?

And if you want to discuss my post, why don’t you do so in public?

I mean, really, do you have to eat whale? I suppose the consciousness of the animal never occurred to you?

Since I address these questions at length in the diary entry, it would appear you haven’t read it through. How, then, can I take you seriously?

Response:

Whaling protestorsI’m not signed up for your forum, so I can’t answer in public, although I would have been glad to do so. You’re right, I didn’t read through the entire diary, though I will now. I find it next to impossible though, to justify the eating of whale, no matter how nutricious. And, by posting of your feast in public, you will encourage others to do so as well. I’m not sure what is behind all of this. It is difficult for me to fathom the desire to eat of such an intelligent, endangered animal. Frankly, it isn’t my concern that you take me seriously. I hope though, that you received info from others that might encourage you to reconsider. The whale is an endangered species. Yes, I know you ate one of the types that is not endangered. In my view, this personal advertisement of your meal will not aid efforts to protect the species as a whole. That is my view. There are many ways to obtain the nutrition through other types of food and suplements. Seaweed is an excellent source of all that is needed from the ocean. Please reconsider…

elizabeth

I replied:

It is very easy to sign up for either European Tribune or My Left Wing (I would guess the latter is where you read it). Takes only a moment, and a valid e-mail address. You obviously have both.

The whale is an endangered species.

There is no species called ‘whale’ - as noted in the post, there are about 80 known species, ranging from the harbor porpoise to the blue whale.

It is difficult for me to fathom the desire to eat of such an intelligent, endangered animal.

Again, I explicitly discussed the intelligence issue in the article. There is no scientific evidence to date that the minke whale is more intelligent than cattle, let alone pigs. And you admit that it isn’t endangered:

Yes, I know you ate one of the types that is not endangered.

So what exactly is your problem?

And, by posting of your feast in public, you will encourage others to do so as well.

There is no whale meat to be bought outside of Norway, Japan, and Iceland. But even if there were, why would I worry if others too ate meat from non-threatened stocks of minke whale?

In my view, this personal advertisement of your meal will not aid efforts to protect the species as a whole.

True; but I have no intention to aid such efforts, if by ‘protect the species as a whole’ you mean banning even sustainable harvest of non-threatened populations. That was my point.

There are many ways to obtain the nutrition through other types of food and suplements. Seaweed is an excellent source of all that is needed from the ocean.

Sorry, but I was after the taste, not the nutrition, and the taste of seaweed just doesn’t cut it…

This retort, it seems, exasperated my correspondent:

You remind me of a friend of mine. You’re all intellect. You can take apart anyone’s email, I am sure, and rationally dissect their argument. But as far as feeling the argument, or point of view, you’re just not there.

Have a good life.

elizabeth

Why, thanks! My parting words:

That’s how you save-the-whalers operate, isn’t it? You demand, without offering reasonable arguments, that others bow down to your culturally specific feelings, and are incensed when they decline.

Have a good life, too.

Yet she just might have a point about my personality. If this (rather crude) blogger personality test is to be believed, I am the INTP (Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving) type:

The INTP has no understanding or value for decisions made on the basis of personal subjectivity or feelings. They strive constantly to achieve logical conclusions to problems, and don’t understand the importance or relevance of applying subjective emotional considerations to decisions.

Well then; I guess it’s in my nature to choose the whale steak over the seaweed. Sorry, Liz.

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